So, by now most of you know I'm expecting, this time my eighth child. Reactions to the news have mostly been positive, but there have been a few negative comments and some raised eyebrows. Perhaps I'm just ultra-sensitive, ready to pick up on the least hint of negativity, or perhaps I'm just pregnant and emotional, but I've felt the hurt of it -- the feeling that others are rejecting this baby or judging me.
I've announced my pregnancy to some friends, expecting them to share my excitement and gotten instead shrugged shoulders and a change of subject. I guess I can understand it a bit; after all, I've done this before, so perhaps they think that for me, it's just become routine, like announcing we're buying a new car or going on a vacation, nothing too new or different or exciting.
But to me, this is something to be celebrated. It's exciting and wonderful and miraculous. This child is unique and special, and this is his chance to experience earth life. I believe, as it says in Job, that we were there at the foundations of the world, "when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy" (Job 38:7) This child I am welcoming was among them, and I don't think he feels short-changed in any way because his mother has given birth before. This is his time, his place, his chance, his miracle.
Sometimes I feel very lonely, especially for a mentor, for someone who has been there and understands what I'm experiencing. We have more kids than anyone I know personally (at least that's still raising them). I wish I knew lots of moms who had more children, so I could ask them my questions, pour out my heart, and learn from their experiences. Actually, I'd be happy to know just one or two! The internet, with its wonderful, connecting power, helps some, as I've made some friends through blogs and other forums.
But there's something so nourishing about an in-person friendship. A phone call, a walk, sitting together at a park or in a living room and really understanding one another. I do understand that I have a lot to learn from women whose experiences are different from my own, but it often seems that I am left on the outside of friendships with those who have fewer children, even when we're the same age. We don't get invited to dinner or to join in activities. Again, I get it; seven kids is a lot to invite over, and surely, that mom with seven is far enough along in life that she's plenty busy and doesn't need your friendship. We tend to congregate around those who are at the same stage of life as we are in. Most of the moms who live around me have two or three children, so it's natural they tend to band together and enjoy each other.
But where does that leave me? There are not an abundance of large families nearby for me to band together with! In fact, a recent article reported that according to the 2006 census, just .5 percent, or one mother in two hundred, has more than seven children. No wonder I'm beginning to feel as if I'm the only person in the world with more than six kids! I understand a lot of the reasons there aren't more large families, from the pressure to fit into the world's standards of acceptable to the very real financial, emotional, and health concerns to the pain of infertility. The fact is, even if a couple wanted to have a lot of children and eschewed birth control, many would never have eight children. A hundred years ago, there were a lot of large families of eight, ten, and even twelve or more children, yes, but there were also families of one, two, or none.
I'm really not complaining (Okay, maybe I am, a little). And I should point out that I have been blessed with good friendships. One of my best friends has six children and is the one I call or walk with when life gets just a bit too tough. Another of my best friends lives in New York, and thanks to email, our friendship has survived eleven years, through several moves, her life in Sweden and Israel, and soon-to-be thirteen births between us. Some of my other friends send me quick notes in response to my weekly emails or lift me in other ways. I am so grateful for the good people around me.
But sometimes, I feel lonely.
I've announced my pregnancy to some friends, expecting them to share my excitement and gotten instead shrugged shoulders and a change of subject. I guess I can understand it a bit; after all, I've done this before, so perhaps they think that for me, it's just become routine, like announcing we're buying a new car or going on a vacation, nothing too new or different or exciting.
But to me, this is something to be celebrated. It's exciting and wonderful and miraculous. This child is unique and special, and this is his chance to experience earth life. I believe, as it says in Job, that we were there at the foundations of the world, "when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy" (Job 38:7) This child I am welcoming was among them, and I don't think he feels short-changed in any way because his mother has given birth before. This is his time, his place, his chance, his miracle.
Sometimes I feel very lonely, especially for a mentor, for someone who has been there and understands what I'm experiencing. We have more kids than anyone I know personally (at least that's still raising them). I wish I knew lots of moms who had more children, so I could ask them my questions, pour out my heart, and learn from their experiences. Actually, I'd be happy to know just one or two! The internet, with its wonderful, connecting power, helps some, as I've made some friends through blogs and other forums.
But there's something so nourishing about an in-person friendship. A phone call, a walk, sitting together at a park or in a living room and really understanding one another. I do understand that I have a lot to learn from women whose experiences are different from my own, but it often seems that I am left on the outside of friendships with those who have fewer children, even when we're the same age. We don't get invited to dinner or to join in activities. Again, I get it; seven kids is a lot to invite over, and surely, that mom with seven is far enough along in life that she's plenty busy and doesn't need your friendship. We tend to congregate around those who are at the same stage of life as we are in. Most of the moms who live around me have two or three children, so it's natural they tend to band together and enjoy each other.
But where does that leave me? There are not an abundance of large families nearby for me to band together with! In fact, a recent article reported that according to the 2006 census, just .5 percent, or one mother in two hundred, has more than seven children. No wonder I'm beginning to feel as if I'm the only person in the world with more than six kids! I understand a lot of the reasons there aren't more large families, from the pressure to fit into the world's standards of acceptable to the very real financial, emotional, and health concerns to the pain of infertility. The fact is, even if a couple wanted to have a lot of children and eschewed birth control, many would never have eight children. A hundred years ago, there were a lot of large families of eight, ten, and even twelve or more children, yes, but there were also families of one, two, or none.
I'm really not complaining (Okay, maybe I am, a little). And I should point out that I have been blessed with good friendships. One of my best friends has six children and is the one I call or walk with when life gets just a bit too tough. Another of my best friends lives in New York, and thanks to email, our friendship has survived eleven years, through several moves, her life in Sweden and Israel, and soon-to-be thirteen births between us. Some of my other friends send me quick notes in response to my weekly emails or lift me in other ways. I am so grateful for the good people around me.
But sometimes, I feel lonely.
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Lonely is a hard feeling. I know that as a 30+ there are many things I wish my life was and often feel lonely in my life circumstances--hang in there.
Luv ya, C
Norah, thank you for sharing your perspective. It does make me think about things differently. Like I said, I'm probably just ultra-sensitive!
After your post, I felt I must respond. I feel the same a lot of times as well. I have no multiples in my children so I have been pregnant seven times...I feel lonely a lot as well. My youngest is 2 and my oldest just turned 15 so my children are close as well. I do feel excluded from a lot of things by the number of children I have...at least that seems why. My husband is a school teacher and I stay at home...our friends "do" a lot of things that we would love to be able to do, yet are limited. I find this eliminates us not only from the activities, but a lot of the conversation later. It's hard...I wish we were closer in proximity...I've caught from various posts where you are and I live further north about 1 1/2 hours...it would be fun to trade stories etc...
I haven't congratulated you yet on your pregnancy. I read about it and wanted to, but we had a neighborhood emergency that has taken all my energy and emotional strength lately. But, CONGRATULATIONS!!!
I am so happy for you and this new child that is being blessed to come to your family. I understand your feelings also. We have six children and that is the largest family I know of in our ward that is still raising children. In fact, even though we are not musical, we were asked to sing a song as a family in our upcoming Primary program. When I asked why they chose us they replied, "Because you have the most children in our Primary".
We recently moved to where we live now, and even though I have made some friends, I feel that having such a large family hinders that some. I can't just be with the mothers of toddlers because I have school age children. And I can't just be around the mothers of older children because I have an 8 month old baby also. It is difficult, but then I look at my six children and I realize it is all worth it. We are so blessed that we are able to have a large family. Good luck to you!
We all have days when we're ultra sensitive. I second the first comment, I may only have 3 kids, but we're all mothers, and there's a special camaraderie in that, no matter how many children you have.
You are wonderful, and this new baby will be such a joy.
I think it is out of the "norm" to have more than 3. I ONLY have 5 (I say that with a smile because it's still a lot) but I think most people just do blow it off after number 3. I am sorry you feel that way. I know we're not close but I do look at others like you with great admiration for that woman that you are in raising 7 (soon to be 8) children with grace. I think it takes special women like you in order to raise so many and in such a loving way!
Keep up the good work and know that no matter what any one says you are always loved and never alone!
I am sorry you feel a bit isolated but I promise every woman out there feels the same way at different times for different reasons. I know it probably won't help much right now, but you will be even more grateful for all those little people when they start leaving home. Having them gone is lonely too. :-) And then think of the wonderful family gatherings you will have!! So what I am saying is the very thing that makes you feel a bit isolated right now, will bring you joy, rejoicing and keep you from feeling lonely later in your life.
I'm thrilled for you and for this baby. In some ways I think that children coming to large families are the luckiest of all. I know that my children anticipate our baby with such excitment and joy that I cannot help but feel that the baby is doubly blessed not to have just parents eager for his arrival but siblings!
I'm sorry that you've felt so lonely as you embark on this pregnancy. Truthfully,I think that you should expect people to respond differently to you than they have--especially considering where you live and being among people who believe in families. I'm sorry that hasn't been your experience.
I'm glad though that you have decided to share your experience. It's an important reminder to all of us to be more supportive and loving.
Much love to you.
Rachel
I wish we lived close enough to get to know one another well. I have the 2nd largest family in our ward, so I do sort of understand. I still feel like I just have one or two little ones! It's surprising to me when I realize that some of the younger mom's don't really consider me a peer. They like me well enough, but I find I have to go to the effort of getting to know them, rather than the other way around!
I know I don't have nearly as many kids as you do. Well, right now you only have two more than me, but I often feel on the outside of things as well, just because I have 5!!
But the point being, that the feelings of lonliness happen upon all of us at one time or another.
My own mother had 8 children, of which I'm the oldest. And I can remember when she had my last few sisters that I got teased like crazy from the kids at school, because she was having "ANOTHER KID". I didn't know what the big deal was about till I got much older and realized that the worlds perception of a big family, often stopped at 3 kids!! To have more than that.. well you know what it's like.
I know for my mom, that it was hard while all the kids were young, and my dad did manual labor for a living, and still does, so he doesn't make a load of money. So things were really tough with that many kids, and we lived in a house signicantly smaller than what you are in.
But I know there were moments when my mom really struggled, and had a hard time keeping it together. I couldn't really understand all those moments till I became a mother myself, and now I know.
But it's too bad that we as woman have these moments where we feel lonely because of our life's circumstances. But ultimately we just need to keep doing what we know we need to do, and pray for a friend that you can connect with, and rely on for help. I know that's what I've done a few different times in my life, and sure enough I seem to find a few friends that can offer me the love and support that I need for that time in my life.
And those darn pregnancy hormones probably don't help with the feeling of being alone.
I know you are in a unique position because of your large family. I just don't want you to feel alone. The advice you give here on your blog about organizing and family outings is just as relevant to a first time mom as an 8th-time mom. And maybe a first time mom has something to offer you as well. Hang in there!
Just knowing I am not alone in this eases that a bit. But I am sad that you hurt too. I hope you are able to meet someone who can lend and ear and be an in person friend too.
Anyway, CONGRATS!!! I had no idea you were expecting again. How exciting. Wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months!!!
I feel like an alien much of the time. People don't get it, they don't understand what having x number of kids is like. They assume SO much and most of it is WAY off. I get tired of the assumptions more than anything....we must be poor....I must be a saint....we must be rich....I must be crazy....they go on and on, and none of them are true. And when I annouce that I'm pg again I can see all of the assumptions flash across their face. I just want to be ME, with my family, and I want some understanding that I'm NORMAL. Why is it okay for other people to spend their life focused on carrer growth, income growth, a bigger house, car, boat, bank account, what ever....anything and everything in life is BETTER if it's BIGGER, right? Isn't that the message from society? Everything and everything BUT A BIGGER FAMILY??? How did kids get excluded from that bigger is better list??? I'm sure I'm way off on a rant, and I'm not going to go back and proof read this, just know that I know what you are feeling and if I was there I'd take you out to lunch - a picnic lunch at a local part with our kids...cause I may not be rich but I know how to have a good time on a budget...lol!
Second - From what I can tell, there is nothing so common as feeling alone/lonely. Everyone experiences it for some reason and is sure they are missing out in some way. We feel different b/c of how many kids we have, how old we are or were when we married, where we were raised, whether or not we scrapbook/play sports/cloth diaper/homeschool...
The best thing I can do when I feel that way is go and serve someone else who might feel lonely for some reason. It's not easy sometimes to get out of the pity party but I promise you aren't alone in feeling that way! :D Choose to invite people over if you need friends and activities, someone will start reciprocating eventually! Choose to be the one to be excited when you share news and it'll rub off with others. Choose to introduce yourself first and be friendly.
Third - My favorite mentors in life have not been people like me. Usually they were unlikely candidates at first meeting - significantly older or someone I dubbed "crazy" after our first meeting. And then it turned out we became great friends and I learn alot from them.
Congrats on another beautiful baby. You are blessed!